I like this. The only thing I consider worth "lying" for is to spare someone's feelings. I am not "up front" enough to tell someone they look like shit if they ask me. :P
My inlaws used to want us to "lie" about our kids' ages when they were little so they could get into Disneyworld cheaper. I said "It's not worth 2 bucks to me to turn myself into a liar."
I'd rather spend two bucks and NOT be a liar. Meh! It sounds petty, but I think it's important!
A story: We were in the pub calming the groom's nerves with a pint. He had a proper set up, with an unusual waistcoat, and somehow the discussion got to the waistcoat and why the design etc.
X said "I think it is the most hideous thing I have ever seen!"
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Truth? Opinion?
X nearly got punched. Not just by the Groom either.
Sorry. But yes there are times where you just don't tell the Truth as you see it.
OK, a bit off the point, but your comment about appearences made me remember than ~ after all X thought it was horrible, but Groom & a lot of others thought it was lovely ~ it was a matter of personal opinion and thus not a question of absolute truth.
There is also the catagory of what Terry Pratchett calls Lies-to-children: you go to the hospital so the doctors can make you better. You don't say, well, you might get worse, or die, or it might hurt. Its not going to help.
But honesty as in stuff like 'are you seeing someone else?', 'I have HIV', 'Oh, of course I LOVE watching paint dry (no, actually I hate it but want sex)' or 'My Dad ownes a porche'. :P Stupid nasty. There are lines.
This is odd. I think some lies (or at least not saying things) are pretty important in aduld life - you want to tell the woman at the bakery if her wig is askew, but you don't want to tell her that you hate her taste in jewelry.
But I disagree about fibbing to children. How shall they learn about life if we don't tell them that people do die instead of "sleep" or whatnot. Do we want them to be scared every time they go to bed? I'm biased about Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. You can explain things to children a little easier than the matter is, but please, no lying!
Okay - so if someone asks you your opinion - truth...no doubt - if they're asking, and they want to know...you tell them. It's just respect. But for an Unasked question - it depends - sometimes you save someone from further embarrassment and sometimes you just keep your mouth shut rather than deliberately offend. For ex - the wig/jewelry situation - of course, you tell her that her wig is askew - but did she ask your opinion about her jewelry? probly not - so you can keep that to yourself. If she does ask, you can take the out of Blue-cat - it's not my taste, but I'm glad you like it....
As for real relationship stuff - HIV ect. - If you don't tell the truth...without being asked - You're worse than a douche and you could end up in jail for deliberately hurting someone else. IMO
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The only thing I consider worth "lying" for is to spare someone's feelings. I am not "up front" enough to tell someone they look like shit if they ask me. :P
My inlaws used to want us to "lie" about our kids' ages when they were little so they could get into Disneyworld cheaper. I said "It's not worth 2 bucks to me to turn myself into a liar."
I'd rather spend two bucks and NOT be a liar. Meh! It sounds petty, but I think it's important!
X said "I think it is the most hideous thing I have ever seen!"
...
Truth? Opinion?
X nearly got punched. Not just by the Groom either.
Sorry. But yes there are times where you just don't tell the Truth as you see it.
OK, a bit off the point, but your comment about appearences made me remember than ~ after all X thought it was horrible, but Groom & a lot of others thought it was lovely ~ it was a matter of personal opinion and thus not a question of absolute truth.
There is also the catagory of what Terry Pratchett calls Lies-to-children: you go to the hospital so the doctors can make you better. You don't say, well, you might get worse, or die, or it might hurt. Its not going to help.
But honesty as in stuff like 'are you seeing someone else?', 'I have HIV', 'Oh, of course I LOVE watching paint dry (no, actually I hate it but want sex)' or 'My Dad ownes a porche'. :P Stupid nasty. There are lines.
For instance, about the groom, X could have said "It's not my style" or "I don't like it, but that's just my taste."
OK, I agree about lies to children. Obviously Easter Bunny and Santa Claus, or fibbing so they will understand or not get scared are necessary.
This is odd. I think some lies (or at least not saying things) are pretty important in aduld life - you want to tell the woman at the bakery if her wig is askew, but you don't want to tell her that you hate her taste in jewelry.
But I disagree about fibbing to children. How shall they learn about life if we don't tell them that people do die instead of "sleep" or whatnot. Do we want them to be scared every time they go to bed? I'm biased about Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. You can explain things to children a little easier than the matter is, but please, no lying!
As for real relationship stuff - HIV ect. - If you don't tell the truth...without being asked - You're worse than a douche and you could end up in jail for deliberately hurting someone else. IMO